Here’s Why PS5 Joysticks Drift (and Why They’ll Only Get Worse)

Mere months have passed since the PS5’s hotly anticipated launch, and already there’s a class-action lawsuit brewing over joystick drift on Sony’s high-tech DualSense controllers. Who could have seen this coming? Well, as it turns out, everyone. Everyone should have seen this coming. Because for all its exciting new tech, the DualSense uses off-the-shelf joystick hardware with a long history of predictable, preventable issues. And now we’ve investigated those issues in excruciating detail.
Sony isn’t the only company to use off-the-shelf joystick modules, but, like Microsoft, they’ve made it difficult to repair this consumable component. Joysticks have a known life expectancy-it’s listed right in a product sheet from the manufacturer. In this video, we head back inside a DualSense controller to see what is failing, and how.
You can read more about joystick drift in our blog post on iFixit.com:
www.ifixit.com/News/48944/heres-why-ps5-joysticks-drift-and-why-theyll-only-get-worse
Links to other videos we reference in this video:
XQGaming: How to Repair Xbox One Analog Stick Input
nlpush.info/net/video/gtXSumaFqqOpfZY
My Mate VINCE: Xbox One Controller - Trying different ways to FIX Stick Drift
nlpush.info/net/video/jtm6x6yDem6bptU
SOSS GAMING: How to Replace Xbox One Controller Analog Joystick - Fix Stick Drift & More
nlpush.info/net/video/qL26wmWnZnmtpdk
SOSS GAMING: How to Replace Xbox One Controller Analog Joystick - NEW METHOD [...]
nlpush.info/net/video/itXZ3WOkfZCehqs
CYBER DIVER: 【SCUF/PS4コントローラー】【修理/分解】 勝手に動くスティックを新品に交換して修理する方法
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  1. iFixit

    iFixitMaand geleden

    A few notes: We started this investigation due to reports of PS5 DualSense controllers drifting, but as we mention at 0:58, these findings apply to most modern joysticks! 3:14 that carbon pad has been scratched with a dental pick. The actual wear to the pads will look different, this was a demonstration since we didn't have a drifting DualSense. 3:50 sprinkling goldfish crackers into your joystick will not fix drift. Don't try this at home. Don't miss Margot the puppy desperately trying to eat Cheez-Its at 5:47

  2. Joseph Paul Duffey

    Joseph Paul Duffey15 dagen geleden

    @Wiredshadow Unfortunately, those were a total failure. I was so hyped and then the sticks, set after set, broke within weeks. Then, apparently, the backplate was scratched/damaged. The construction is clearly too loose. This is a known issue with endless calls for recall and refunds. I think they got Battle Beaver to assist with better construction as people were having to order their modules anyway. I finally gave up and the thing has been collecting dust for six months.

  3. DF 118

    DF 11816 dagen geleden

    @Wiredshadow.. alternately, they could just build something correctly 😉

  4. Wiredshadow

    Wiredshadow16 dagen geleden

    Replaceable modules would fix this problem Astro does this with their controller.

  5. Ronoc Leon

    Ronoc Leon16 dagen geleden

    i honestly haven't experienced any drift on anaything except 1 switch joycon that was treated ruffly for 3 years

  6. DF 118

    DF 11816 dagen geleden

    The reason the sensor module fails is because the graphite track & the wiper are made of two different materials, one being softer than the other .. over time the denser of the two materials (wiper) will erode the less dense material (graphite track) through friction .. the issue here is at manufacturing level and could be rectified by swapping out the graphite strip for a fine layer of the same metal used to produce the wiper (copper alloy?) life span could be enhanced & latency could also be greatly reduced if these components were gold plated .. I mailed Sony about this over a year ago but received no response. If I had the financial backing I would have had custom sensor modules manufactured that could be swapped out on the mainboard ... alas! :/

  7. Alfredo Elizondo

    Alfredo ElizondoUur geleden

    I have 2 controllers for 5 months now and haven´t had that issue.

  8. David

    David3 uur geleden

    A have a question: in the beginning, you mentioned that the joysticks are essentially the same as the ps4 and xbox controllers. So why is it that the ps5 joystick drifts more than them?

  9. Yusuke Urameshi

    Yusuke Urameshi9 uur geleden

    I've been through 4 ps4 controllers. The joysticks are so bad. They need to make them better. It's sad that a 3rd party controller has the potential to be better.

  10. Y Qisq

    Y Qisq11 uur geleden

    They probably don't intend to fix it... for profit.

  11. 24 Burnaa

    24 Burnaa13 uur geleden

    I remember I would have the same ps3 controller for years with no issue like this. It’s been since January I’ve had the ps5 and it’s already drifting

  12. Amirhosein Herandy

    Amirhosein HerandyDag geleden

    Why wouldn't they just add a calibration tool in the os?

  13. Sgt Nooodle

    Sgt NooodleDag geleden

    I WONDER IF YOU KNOW HOW THEY LIVE IN TOKYO

  14. Victor W.

    Victor W.Dag geleden

    Have had my PS5 since launch, my controller is still absolutely fine!

  15. Jester Xeno

    Jester XenoDag geleden

    My ps4 controller has been abused and used since the first day of the ps4s release and it still work perfectly. I bought a second controller thinking that at some point the one that came with the box would break but ow boy how wrong I was. I now have a red ps4 controller in perfect condition that has never been used.

  16. RUSapache

    RUSapacheDag geleden

    Wait, if Microsoft and Sony use same potentiometers in controllers, why it is only issue on PS5 but not on Xbox?

  17. What This Video - WTv

    What This Video - WTvDag geleden

    Solutions: 1. Fix it 2. Replace it 3. Buy new Just forget about 2 and 3 during these times. Only one is 1.

  18. Pedro Gabriel Haddad

    Pedro Gabriel Haddad2 dagen geleden

    This still doesn't explain why drift wasn't nearly as much of a problem before if it's basically the same technology

  19. HeroVax

    HeroVax2 dagen geleden

    My dualsense left stick started drifting.

  20. Zhedny Tenio

    Zhedny Tenio3 dagen geleden

    Nag te tech tips na pala si ed caluag ngayun hahahaha

  21. Raqtor96

    Raqtor963 dagen geleden

    Does not explain why PS5 controller drifts/jitters after a few months and PS4 controllers never ever fails after 7+ years of constant use.

  22. Sweet List

    Sweet List3 dagen geleden

    I bought my ps4 controller online for $13 and using it for 2 years with no issue 😆😆

  23. Mike W

    Mike W4 dagen geleden

    Why don't they start making them with hall effect sensors?

  24. Cheems Burger

    Cheems Burger4 dagen geleden

    Dang i had my ps4 pro controller which took a year and a half to get drift and you telling me ps5 controller on takes a month of playtime to get drift?!

  25. Arvid Olson

    Arvid Olson5 dagen geleden

    But this doesn’t explain why there are more reports if dualsense drifting than the other controllers using the same sticks?

  26. Ben Wise

    Ben Wise5 dagen geleden

    If the PS5 controller has the same components as the PS4 version why didn't the PS4 controller suffer from stick drift?

  27. Lewis Ride

    Lewis Ride6 dagen geleden

    Well... got the issue after 2-3 months from buying. Already sent it to Sony...

  28. Smõl PeePee

    Smõl PeePee6 dagen geleden

    The equivalent of the health industry saying they can fix your issue but only if you buy and use their pill for the rest of your life

  29. BoatLoadOfSeamen

    BoatLoadOfSeamen7 dagen geleden

    Issues like this were almost unheard of 15-20+ years ago with the PS1 and PS2. Those controllers had incredibly durable and smooth analog sticks.

  30. - james

    - james7 dagen geleden

    My PS4 controller drifts and I’ve only had it a couple years :(

  31. Adrian

    Adrian7 dagen geleden

    They just need a calibration software. The offset will change. It will never be on the same position

  32. Alex

    Alex7 dagen geleden

    Useful thank you

  33. Cheers

    Cheers7 dagen geleden

    This sounds like The Lightbulb Conspiracy, it can be fixed. But why would they, it a profitable flaw.

  34. Morzan the God

    Morzan the God8 dagen geleden

    They just want you to buy another controller. It's so obvious and it passes me off.

  35. Draxic

    Draxic8 dagen geleden

    i would just replace the stick thing with one that works for over 10 years like the ps3 one!

  36. Toast Fairy

    Toast Fairy8 dagen geleden

    Okay so theres 2 ways we could fix this: 1: we make controllers more expensive, but drastically improve the joystick quality 2: we keep the price the same but we make it to where joysticks can be easily replaceable and sell replacment joysticks (though this might lead to scalping).

  37. Galactic Donut

    Galactic Donut8 dagen geleden

    I probably have a few thousand hours on my ps4 controller, and luckily I haven’t experienced stick drift. Then I bought a second controller, and within 2 days of light use, it had stuck drift. Too bad I couldn’t call customer service because during this time it was down due to covid. I’m hoping I don’t need to go through the same bs with the ps5

  38. ThePThunter

    ThePThunter8 dagen geleden

    I feel this is the perfect opportunity for 3D printer nerds to work their magic and make money.

  39. FreddyMasterRace

    FreddyMasterRace10 dagen geleden

    What worries me is that it's only a matter of time before the market is flooded with knockoffs. There will be a time when all real dualsense controllers will malfunction and force us into buying either fake ones or very expensive authentic ones. IDK about US and Canada, but here in Latin America is a very common problem, I can't buy an authentic Dualshock 4 controller because they cost more than a Duelsense.

  40. Trickster 2059

    Trickster 205912 dagen geleden

    How about a FKIN company releases a product that won't break less than a month after release

  41. Jordan Mossong

    Jordan Mossong12 dagen geleden

    Bruh this some bullshit, my controller drifting up and I just got it a week ago

  42. Dan L

    Dan L12 dagen geleden

    In other words, Sony, Nintendo and M$ just want you to buy new controllers often.

  43. Psych 336

    Psych 33612 dagen geleden

    It’s funny how 25 year old ps1 controllers work just fine.

  44. αηÐяєι 2nd

    αηÐяєι 2nd12 dagen geleden

    We will truly experience the future if theres a controller with hot swappable joystick

  45. Optimist Prime

    Optimist Prime13 dagen geleden

    Controllers aren't built to last on purpose, companies make most of their profits from accessories these days. A console cycle lasts maybe 7-10 years, during which you'll need 1-2 replacement controllers a year. That's easily twice the console price in total.

  46. David Luz

    David Luz13 dagen geleden

    My controller has the weirdest problem it goes forward when I press L2 wtf kinda drift is that

  47. David Reynolds

    David Reynolds13 dagen geleden

    Meanwhile I’m still using my first Xbox 1 controller, and wireless ps2 controller from 15 years ago, y’all play too much lol

  48. Veilyz

    Veilyz14 dagen geleden

    Mine just started doing this, not surprised to be honest. Ps4s were just as bad

  49. p0_0kie

    p0_0kie14 dagen geleden

    So moral of the story is buy a goddam pc

  50. Sara.C

    Sara.C14 dagen geleden

    Are iFixit staff electrical engineers?

  51. Joshua Goodwin

    Joshua Goodwin14 dagen geleden

    i love how everybody thought that ps5 would destroy the competition but xbox is slowly gaining ground and becoming better

  52. David Perry

    David Perry14 dagen geleden

    Best way to improve the design of a controller is digital sticks which are like analog sticks but with optical encoders instead of a potentiometers

  53. R A

    R A14 dagen geleden

    Mouse for life!

  54. Unknown

    Unknown14 dagen geleden

    I never had a problem with the ps5. Used mine every single day since launch for multiple hours per use.

  55. The Anti Tryhard

    The Anti Tryhard15 dagen geleden

    Only 400 hours? I have played 7000 hours GTA Online with only one Controller 🤣🤣☝️

  56. Charlie Roberts

    Charlie Roberts15 dagen geleden

    What is difting?!??

  57. Pepe Laugh

    Pepe Laugh15 dagen geleden

    While my Xbox 360 controller from 2008 is still perfect. What a joke...

  58. G Propho Loading

    G Propho Loading15 dagen geleden

    Brought a new PS5 joystick a week ago & now its drifting like the one that came with the system.. im upset

  59. BIGTICKET

    BIGTICKET12 dagen geleden

    Get it replaced my brother for free just contact Sony through phone. Talk to them about it

  60. CT Gaming

    CT Gaming15 dagen geleden

    Why? Because the Pony Fans will make excuses for the company and keep buying new ones. Good luck.

  61. K B

    K B15 dagen geleden

    Oh god they’re using potentiometers ? The never ending nightmare, it just seems to follow me... Does anyone had to work in university labs with bad potentiometers ? It hurts. It fcking hurts a lot.

  62. Dimitriuchiha

    Dimitriuchiha15 dagen geleden

    I got one and I haven’t had a problem with mine at all

  63. Gianuario Capece

    Gianuario Capece15 dagen geleden

    just buy a non sony/nintendo joystick, there are plenty of unofficial controller that don't have this problem , if they won't do anything to fix this problem then just buy another controller that's not made by them

  64. alpha LP. !!!!!

    alpha LP. !!!!!15 dagen geleden

    Weird i dont have joystick drift on the nintendo switch but i do have it on the ps4 so for me this is purely a sony problem but i dont always have drift i just have it sometimes after i use the stick so its not a constant Problem which confuses me because whats the problem that is sometimes there and sometimes not

  65. homegrowntwinkie

    homegrowntwinkie15 dagen geleden

    Well, the PS5 controllers are now drifting? Who could've seen this coming - No one. Because no one owns one, that's who.

  66. RiceWithRamen

    RiceWithRamen15 dagen geleden

    I still have my ps4 controller and my ps4 slim I got when it first released and I use that controller for all my gaming, ps4, pc, etc. Point is it's had plenty of years of wear and tare and it still holds up great no drift or anything. You're telling me ps5 controllers (which are now $70) have been experiencing this? Even brand new ones? That's completely unacceptable especially for it being "next gen", which at best their power meets some mid range pcs. Jesus hope they fix it by the time ps5s become widely available.

  67. Chaz Bennett

    Chaz Bennett15 dagen geleden

    What I don't get is that I have never heard of joysticks drifting on consoles that have the joystick built into the thing itself like a psp, do they not use pots for them and instead something else or am I looking to far into this

  68. I don't know what to call my channel

    I don't know what to call my channel15 dagen geleden

    My ps4 started to drift so I just took it apart and removed the metal disc thing behind the green thing I messed up and bent it managed to bend it back to the correct shape put it back together and never tried again. Haven't had any drift now tho

  69. begolly awm

    begolly awm16 dagen geleden

    Any suggestiins on a ps5 compatable controller?

  70. DoomOfConviction

    DoomOfConviction16 dagen geleden

    You can also try to uns Mouse and Keyboard on your PC and laugh about console gamers and company’s milking them!

  71. Julien D

    Julien D16 dagen geleden

    My question, why not buy a new one?

  72. XShelledBrushxX

    XShelledBrushxX16 dagen geleden

    and this is way you were better off coping the series x

  73. VGames 1

    VGames 116 dagen geleden

    I have this issue with my XBOX ONE controller, so I am barely using the console. Such a terrible production failure.

  74. dvuemedia

    dvuemedia16 dagen geleden

    I'm thinking that is some kind of electronic problem, or maybe heat? I took a drifting wired Switch controller from Switch and connected to PC and it's working fine. Then back to Switch, and it works fine too, then after some time drifts again. Never had PS2/PS3 analog drift, unless the joystick was physically defective.

  75. RobFut 99

    RobFut 9916 dagen geleden

    The rubber tearing off the PS5’s analog sticks is the biggest annoyance

  76. Infernal watermelon

    Infernal watermelon16 dagen geleden

    “Man... Freaking Joy Con drift... At least my new PS5 won’t give me any problems.”

  77. A Fabulous Skylanders Spyro

    A Fabulous Skylanders Spyro16 dagen geleden

    PS4 Owners: Trouble in paradise, hmmmm? 👁👄👁

  78. The Jersey Ninja

    The Jersey Ninja16 dagen geleden

    I’ve literally only ever had this issue on 2 PS3 controllers. And that was because my friend threw one hard against the floor one time, and I didn’t the same to the other one a different time. I’ve never had an issue with joysticks on any other controllers. The only other issue I had was on my first ps4 controller the rubber grip at the top of the stick wore down a bit. And my 360 joysticks completely broke on both controllers. Never had an issue with the activation or centering or anything on any controller just from normal use. And I play quite a lot so it’s not like they don’t get used.

  79. Evan Shumaker

    Evan Shumaker16 dagen geleden

    Lmao their drift is worse than joycons. And it isnt even fixable

  80. VocalCalibration

    VocalCalibration16 dagen geleden

    Dreamcast used hall effect censors for both analog sticks on it's controllers. . . . . . . . . I'm repeating the other comment because it's replies are hellish atm.

  81. VocalCalibration

    VocalCalibration16 dagen geleden

    I'm so glad companies like Sony and Nintendo take the quality of their product so seriously. Truly respectable.

  82. J.T. 25

    J.T. 2516 dagen geleden

    I have yet to have an issue with my ps4 and ps5 controllers having any drift, I have used both for well over 1,000 hours of gameplay, I wish the same luck for others. Great vid!

  83. Fion 3

    Fion 316 dagen geleden

    First world problems am I right

  84. Death.ツ

    Death.ツ16 dagen geleden

    This is why I play KBM

  85. Megan

    Megan16 dagen geleden

    I have two controllers and when one starts drifting I grab the other one than when that one starts to drift I get the other one and it's just fine

  86. Mark Hinman

    Mark Hinman16 dagen geleden

    Screw this, I’m gonna go back to first gen consoles.

  87. NNIF

    NNIF16 dagen geleden

    On my Ps4 I have the same problem

  88. Naeem Merchant

    Naeem Merchant16 dagen geleden

    imagine him being ur uncle and being able to fix ur controller lmao

  89. Big OOf

    Big OOf16 dagen geleden

    I have an Xbox series x why am I watching this

  90. Big Smoke

    Big Smoke16 dagen geleden

    Me with my PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4 and PS5 Controller all without Stick drift

  91. Zunny

    Zunny16 dagen geleden

    Boy does this sound familiar

  92. NS Gaming

    NS Gaming16 dagen geleden

    Hall effect joysticks could fix it partially.

  93. DF 118

    DF 11816 dagen geleden

    The reason the sensor module fails is because the graphite track & the wiper are made of two different materials, one being softer than the other .. over time the denser of the two materials (wiper) will erode the less dense material (graphite track) through friction .. the issue here is at manufacturing level and could be rectified by swapping out the graphite strip for a fine layer of the same metal used to produce the wiper (copper alloy?) life span could be enhanced & latency could also be greatly reduced if these components were gold plated .. I mailed Sony about this over a year ago but received no response. If I had the financial backing I would have had custom sensor modules manufactured that could be swapped out on the mainboard ... alas! :/

  94. RubbishFPS

    RubbishFPS16 dagen geleden

    STOP USING CONTROLLERS AND GROW UP! Problem solved.

  95. Demon X

    Demon X16 dagen geleden

    PS5 is not worth buying

  96. Thecaptain0250

    Thecaptain025016 dagen geleden

    Imagine buying a broken ps5 instead of the masterpiece that is a series X

  97. Tee F

    Tee F16 dagen geleden

    Incredibly knowledgable video! If I took a controller apart like that, this would go: "And as you can see, I've broken it.."

  98. paul clark

    paul clark16 dagen geleden

    Why fix something when you can get repeat sales of new controllers that are increasing in price yearly. Much more profit in peripherals than consoles.

  99. Tobi From Cactus Jack

    Tobi From Cactus Jack16 dagen geleden

    I was so careful with my first ps5 controller that when it had controller drift I thought I put it down on the table too gently

  100. illuusive

    illuusive16 dagen geleden

    Just get a pc problem solved

  101. Doctor Who

    Doctor Who16 dagen geleden

    Because it's not a xbox controller

  102. Kutaki 375

    Kutaki 37516 dagen geleden

    Kb/m never has drift

  103. Shinobu Tezuka

    Shinobu Tezuka16 dagen geleden

    time to implement HALL effect joystick sensors.

  104. Shinobu Tezuka

    Shinobu Tezuka16 dagen geleden

    Wasn't the traditional way of maintaining pots is with the use of a good contact cleaner?

  105. Matthew Blackwell

    Matthew Blackwell16 dagen geleden

    i've had the same xbox one controller since 2014 when the one first launched, and it's have none of these problems that 2 week old ps5 controllers do. i easily have over 2000 hours on that controller

  106. J Hopes

    J Hopes16 dagen geleden

    Mines with just fine.